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East Cove regulations

Postby gerald » Tue Jul 06, 2010 10:31 pm

This is from the cameron Prairie web site:
http://www.fws.gov/swlarefugecomplex/ca ... /eastcove/


Questions and Answers

How do you get to the East Cove Unit?

The East Cove Unit is only accessible by boat. The entrance is located through the Grand Bayou Boat Bay at the southeast corner of Calcasieu Lake. A map of the refuge can be obtained from the Visitor Center at Cameron Prairie NWR.

How can I get a castnetting permit?

The permits can be picked up at the Cameron Prairie Visitor Center and through the mail.

Is a fishing license needed to go crabbing?

If you are using bait on a string and a dip net then a Louisiana license is not required but other forms of taking crabs such as liftnets and traps require the possession of a state fish license.

"Note: The LDWF web site says that you do need a basic and salt water license to catch crabs".

What is the limit on shrimp?

The limit is listed within the refuge permit. It is a five gallon bucket per boat per day. A refuge castnetting permit is needed.

Is the Grand Bayou Boat Bay open?

That information is accessible 24 hours a day by calling the East Cove Hotline 337/598 4235. When the boat bay is closed the refuge is closed to all public use.



Currently administered by Cameron Prairie National Wildlife Refuge
1428 Highway 27
Bell City, LA 70630
Phone: 337/598 2216
Fax: 337/598 2492
E-mail: cameronprairie@fws.gov
Last updated: September 24, 2009
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Re: East Cove regulations

Postby jsmoke222000 » Tue Jul 06, 2010 10:42 pm

Good stuff Gerald. This is the first that I've heard of anyone needing a cast netting permit behind the weirs. I'm going to send them an email & try to get some clarification of the rules as they have many different set of them posted.
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Re: East Cove regulations

Postby jsmoke222000 » Tue Jul 06, 2010 11:12 pm

I just sent this email.....

To whom it may concern,


I run a website that is full of information on Calcasieu Lake in SW Louisiana. http://www.biglake411.com is the site. As the webmaster of this site, it is my job to keep the site updated with the latest & greatest information available for Calcasieu Lake. It has recently come to my attention that there is some conflicting information posted on the refuges own website concerning the fishing regulations.


The link to the regulations below is marked 2004:


http://library.fws.gov/refuges/cameronprairie_fishing.pdf


These regulations (2004) seem to reflect the same rules as the sign which is currently posted @ the entrance to the East Cove unit from Calcasieu Lake in reguards to the size of cast net allowed on the refuge. A picture of this sign has been attached. The sign states, as do the 2004 regulations, that the maximum size of a cast net on the refuge cannot exceed a 5 ft radius.


The link to the regulations below is marked March 2008:


http://www.fws.gov/southeast/pubs/SWLAcomplex_Fish.pdf


On page 7 of these regulations (2008) it is stated that the size of a cast net on the refuge must be less than 8.5 ft. in radius. Again, these regulations were printed in 2008, but the sign saying there is a 5 ft. cast net size limit is still posted @ the entrance to the refuge.


The link below is to the general information page posted on the refuge website:


http://www.fws.gov/swlarefugecomplex/cameronprairie/eastcove/


This page makes no mention of the cast net size regulations but it states that a castnetting permit is needed to cast net on the East Cove portion of the refuge. No where in the regulations from 2004, 2008, the posted sign or in the current LDWF 2010 fishing regulations does it mention anything about a permit being required for cast netting on the refuge or in the East Cove Unit.


As you can see, this is all very confusing. My users have recently posted some comments on these issues on my message board & we would like some clarification on these rules. Below are the links to 2 of the message threads:


viewtopic.php?f=27&t=429


viewtopic.php?f=27&t=7


If someone could please direct me to a current copy of the rules & regulations or fully explain them to me, it would be greatly appreciated. It is my goal to keep the users of my website informed with the most up to date information as possible. I also invite you to join the message board & post any changes to these rules or to answer questions.


Thanks so much for your time. I look forward to hearing back from you soon.


Tight lines,

The Admin Team
BigLake411.com



Maybe we can get some answers......... :dunno:
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Re: East Cove regulations

Postby Ray » Tue Jul 06, 2010 11:46 pm

I would send it to a specific person, like the refuge manager.
Most of this info. is written by the feds., not a refuge employee, but the employee's and manager should be able to get things changed.
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Re: East Cove regulations

Postby gerald » Wed Jul 07, 2010 5:50 pm

I sent an email yesterday, requesting a "cast net permit".

I also included information on the "broken bumper" on the fence crossing the bayou.

I suggest you call the office. I did this a several years ago and was give the managers cell number so I could talk with him. He was very nice.....but not sure if this is the same person now.
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Re: East Cove regulations

Postby Gottogo49 » Wed Jul 07, 2010 8:54 pm

Mr. J,
Before Rita there used to be a box of brochures on the sign with a permit on the bottom that you had to sign and keep with you while in the refuge.
It was free and it was mainly to ensure that you knew the regulations. It may have been back when the East Cove unit was part of Sabine Refuge.
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Re: East Cove regulations

Postby Ray » Wed Jul 07, 2010 8:57 pm

Gottogo49 wrote:Mr. J,
Before Rita there used to be a box of brochures on the sign with a permit on the bottom that you had to sign and keep with you while in the refuge.
It was free and it was mainly to ensure that you knew the regulations. It may have been back when the East Cove unit was part of Sabine Refuge.


Good info.

I hunted just South of Lambert Lake for 25 years.
We would go into the refuge from private land to fish, crab and shrimp.
I never knew I had to have a permit.
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Re: East Cove regulations

Postby gerald » Thu Jul 15, 2010 12:03 pm

jsmoke222000 wrote:I just sent this email.....

To whom it may concern,


I run a website that is full of information on Calcasieu Lake in SW Louisiana. http://www.biglake411.com is the site. As the webmaster of this site, it is my job to keep the site updated with the latest & greatest information available for Calcasieu Lake. It has recently come to my attention that there is some conflicting information posted on the refuges own website concerning the fishing regulations.


The link to the regulations below is marked 2004:


http://library.fws.gov/refuges/cameronprairie_fishing.pdf


These regulations (2004) seem to reflect the same rules as the sign which is currently posted @ the entrance to the East Cove unit from Calcasieu Lake in reguards to the size of cast net allowed on the refuge. A picture of this sign has been attached. The sign states, as do the 2004 regulations, that the maximum size of a cast net on the refuge cannot exceed a 5 ft radius.


The link to the regulations below is marked March 2008:


http://www.fws.gov/southeast/pubs/SWLAcomplex_Fish.pdf


On page 7 of these regulations (2008) it is stated that the size of a cast net on the refuge must be less than 8.5 ft. in radius. Again, these regulations were printed in 2008, but the sign saying there is a 5 ft. cast net size limit is still posted @ the entrance to the refuge.


The link below is to the general information page posted on the refuge website:


http://www.fws.gov/swlarefugecomplex/cameronprairie/eastcove/


This page makes no mention of the cast net size regulations but it states that a castnetting permit is needed to cast net on the East Cove portion of the refuge. No where in the regulations from 2004, 2008, the posted sign or in the current LDWF 2010 fishing regulations does it mention anything about a permit being required for cast netting on the refuge or in the East Cove Unit.


As you can see, this is all very confusing. My users have recently posted some comments on these issues on my message board & we would like some clarification on these rules. Below are the links to 2 of the message threads:


viewtopic.php?f=27&t=429


viewtopic.php?f=27&t=7


If someone could please direct me to a current copy of the rules & regulations or fully explain them to me, it would be greatly appreciated. It is my goal to keep the users of my website informed with the most up to date information as possible. I also invite you to join the message board & post any changes to these rules or to answer questions.


Thanks so much for your time. I look forward to hearing back from you soon.


Tight lines,

The Admin Team
BigLake411.com



Maybe we can get some answers......... :dunno:



Have you gotten any reply yet?
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Re: East Cove regulations

Postby jsmoke222000 » Thu Jul 15, 2010 6:50 pm

No. I'm really not too shocked about it either. It's more cost effective to issue tickets.........
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Re: East Cove regulations

Postby Hydro » Mon Jul 19, 2010 5:33 pm

How wide is that boat bay ??? I eased up close one day and it looked pretty tight...

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