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Re: Haynie Pros & Cons!!??!!

Postby bayboatman » Mon Oct 04, 2010 8:33 am

When you get back call me 337-558-5451 and I will get you on the Z21 Im sorry I wasnt able to make it happen that day but they were both unavailable. Give me a heads up so I can arrange it for you. Paul
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Re: Haynie Pros & Cons!!??!!

Postby bayboatman » Mon Oct 04, 2010 8:44 am

Ryan just so you know our boats come with a lifetime warranty against rotten wood. Also no screws on our consoles completely glass in. I will set up the demo with W so you can experience the Z21. You will love it just as you did the 24 HO. Jeremy is a true believer in his Z21. As well he should be. I think once you ride in his boat you will soon be on your way to being the PROUD owner of a Haynie. Im looking forward to getting you in the Haynie family.
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Re: Haynie Pros & Cons!!??!!

Postby jsmoke222000 » Mon Oct 04, 2010 9:29 am

Thanks for that info Paul. This isn't the first time I've heard someone concerned about rotten wood. It's good to know that it's covered under the hull warranty. :cheers:
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Re: Haynie Pros & Cons!!??!!

Postby ardoin25 » Mon Oct 04, 2010 9:50 am

Thanks for that info, Paul!! That definatly help to sway me a little more towards Haynie!! Thats definatly a BIG plus!! And I definatly want to demo the Z21. Im planing on heading back and staying at Big Lake for a few days when I get back home. Ill give you a call then.
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Re: Haynie Pros & Cons!!??!!

Postby bayboatman » Mon Oct 04, 2010 10:27 am

you know I have been selling boats for over 10 yrs now. Some of the biggest players in the market build boats with lots of wood. Hurrincane Deck Boats are the number 1 selling deck boat in the world. Wanna know why they have the best riding hull. Well thats because they are built with lots of wood. there are boats over 200 yrs old still floating guess what they were made of??????? drumroll please WOOD LOL.
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Re: Haynie Pros & Cons!!??!!

Postby Ray » Mon Oct 04, 2010 1:51 pm

Having a lifetime warranty on wood rot says a lot for the boat.
I rode in Waltrips boat last winter. It is a great riding boat.
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Re: Haynie Pros & Cons!!??!!

Postby ardoin25 » Mon Oct 04, 2010 2:23 pm

I agree. Having that kinda warrenty and such a nice boat is kinda hard to pass up!!
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Re: Haynie Pros & Cons!!??!!

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Re: Haynie Pros & Cons!!??!!

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Re: Haynie Pros & Cons!!??!!

Postby Ray » Wed Oct 06, 2010 1:29 pm

From a good boat repairman:

Plywood is stronger than foam in most cases. So long as the fasteners are bedded properly, you won't have leakage. Core leakage is one of those things that happens purely because of neglect. Neglect at the time of installation, as well as neglect during the life of the fastener due to owners not monitoring the vessel. What's more, if the fastener hole is fully bedded with resin, you can't hurt the core even if the fastener leaks, and again this is not difficult or costly to do.
For us to give up on coring, means we have to give up on the entire possibility of a boat being built as specified. If that is true, then the whole thing is suspect, right down to the laminate. Now, given the fantstic laminate failings we have seen with Bertram and coring silliness from Searay, as consumers maybe we can't rely on specifications at all. But as boatbuilders, I think we surely would be able to take full accountability for quality control. One has to wonder whether coring issues are actually ignored or engineered because they are not difficult to avoid. For some reason its just not a priority.

I admit that I like solid glass box stringers formed over a foam core because there is simply no way to hurt them, even if you saturate the foam core (yes most foam cores will suffer from water adsorption). I like it because I don't have to trust someone elses ability (or do I? how do I know they didn't screw up the layup of the glass if we can't trust them to do something as simple as sealing wood?).

But if you want to build the strongest boat at one of the lightest weights, at the lowest cost then you almost certainly want to use wood. What's more, it is NOT difficult to seal a wood core. So, again I say that if the boat is built well, we have no standing whatsoever to blame the wood as a failure point. We should be blaming QC, but we don't, we blame the material.
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